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December 4, 2009
Here's what course members from around the world had to say. Want to join the conversation? Submit your feed. Then put this at the beginning of your post: CCK09
Re: Final Project PodcastThank you for your comments! That is inspiration for me. I had lots of fun creating my podcast which for me allowed me to share as well as to place myself in my students' "shoes" because I had some frustrating moments figuring out how to upload the podcast. I found Podbean.com to be excellent. Also the placing of the link on my blog so that the podcast would actually play took me a little time to figure out. As I said, it was a fun learning experience and a way to connect with CCK09 as well. I am actually missing our Elluminate sessions!
December 4, 2009 Hello Michelle, thanks for sharing your final presentation. Here are my notes:
I like the reflection "though I feel connected, others wont feel connected
with me if I don´t contribute". I´m "pro-lurking" but what you said made me realise about something obvious: without contribution you wont create a rich network. Knowledge is in the connection, is the connection itself. So, we need more than lurking, no?
For been infomed, lurking is enough (like when you read the news). For learning to occur, connection must be both ways. Learning needs sharing, that´s what comes out from cck09 for me. And that little thing changes everything: the traditional education system is settled over a lie "I will informe you and you will get knowledge from that". No way!
I like the final phrase "If we don´t have questions... how do we learn?". That´s the bottom line for teachers when they don´t know what to do: don´t teach, don´t lecture/informe, just help them to have questions and then learning will come. From that point of view: how excellent are the teachers we have in this course!!
chau!
Luz
With a suitably prepared and well connected community would it not be possible to capture new knowledge as it enters (or emerges in) the network?
For example in the CCK09 cohort could some researcher define a particular aspect of new knowledge and forensically track its movement?
It could be something trivial like "the use of the space bar for navigating in Google Wave" or more complex like "research methods in connectivism"
This would be descriptive research that needs the multiple perspectives of all those who are willing to discuss the new insight with the researcher. It would involve analysis of key terms across multiple technologies. Common themes of interaction could perhaps be inferred from the data and this could be used to demonstrate whether or not the phenomenon is best described by connectivism, constructivism, social learning or whatever.
It sounds great. Roy, I messed up a little bit since I had microphone problems and I had to do my presentation through the chat but if I can be any help I´m ready to participate. After thinking about the Elluminate session where I participated, I realized that I learnt how much conversations gain when topics are delimited in advance. I have a tendency to dispersion and being forced into focusing on one particular idea helps me develop both my learning and communication skills. Apart from knowing microphones better now, these where my challenges and lessons learnt:
These were the challenges:
- Having only one slide and three minutes to present a question and arise other people´s interest was in itself a constraint.
- Having to do it in front of people whom I admire and who are experts or very good at a particular field was another constraint that added a pressure that I need in order to be really productive.
- Having to do it orally, in a language that´s not my native language, was another challenge.
These were the results:
- I gained practice speaking “in public” and synthesizing ideas
- I benefited from the combination of having some ideas developed on my mind in advance+ spontaneous talk. Conversations are so much richer when topics are prepared, read and interiorized in advance
- I felt part of the CCK09 more than any other time before
So I volunteer for telling this "story" any time.
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These links are comments posted to the Moodle Discussion Forum, Week 9, Week 10 and Week 11. If you want to participate in the discussion, but don't want to set up a blog, then you can post here.
Re: RecordingsHi Maijann, its here:
https://sas.elluminate.com/site/external/jwsdetect/playback.jnlp?psid=2009-11-25.0721.M.1223D4571DF6BC84DD5B92A640F41D.vcr
courtesy of John.
Click on my blog link to access my podcast. It was a lot fun creating this and I did learn a lot again!
http://ebrownorama.wordpress.com/
Hi Eva
I really liked your podcast. We agree on a lot of things that I covered in my final project as well. Such as following relevant people on twitter and the idea that teachers should facilitate network building in their students.
I also liked the music that you added. it just adds that something extra that shows that you put effort into this project.
Well done.
Thank-you, Roy.
December 4, 2009Here is my final project presentation. I had a lot of problems creating a podcast, so my last product is without any audio. I included notes for each slide. Please go directly to SlideShare site and follow my notes along the presentation.
Asako
Hello A One. So nice to have you here.
I have often wondered how much damage was caused by teachers with low tolerance (TWLTs), in the name of "...helps maintain order and discipline in the classroom". Has ritalin replaced the strap, in the name of '...achieving conforming behaviour in a classroom and other social settings?'
Hello Michelle, thanks for sharing your final presentation. Here are my notes:
I like the reflection "though I feel connected, others wont feel connected
with me if I don´t contribute". I´m "pro-lurking" but what you said made me realise about something obvious: without contribution you wont create a rich network. Knowledge is in the connection, is the connection itself. So, we need more than lurking, no?
For been infomed, lurking is enough (like when you read the news). For learning to occur, connection must be both ways. Learning needs sharing, that´s what comes out from cck09 for me. And that little thing changes everything: the traditional education system is settled over a lie "I will informe you and you will get knowledge from that". No way!
I like the final phrase "If we don´t have questions... how do we learn?". That´s the bottom line for teachers when they don´t know what to do: don´t teach, don´t lecture/informe, just help them to have questions and then learning will come. From that point of view: how excellent are the teachers we have in this course!!
chau!
Luz
Hi A One! Today I came across this: non-formal education certification
Someone knows more about this? It has been applied somewhere?
I hate ritalin!!! I can´t even speak about it! I hate it!!!
So yes Ken.
Yes, You inspired me!
"That is key in a network: You must find purpose"
For me, purpose comes with the connection. If I have someone to share with, to connect...there is purpose for me.
"We are not longer a class: we belong together"
Nice way to say network.
Thanks Eba!!
Yes Ken. I have created the acronym for this project:
Project E.R.A.S.E.R.
Educational Renewal And Semiotic Ecology Replication
Now if I can just figure out what direction to take with it...
Thank you for your comments! That is inspiration for me. I had lots of fun creating my podcast which for me allowed me to share as well as to place myself in my students' "shoes" because I had some frustrating moments figuring out how to upload the podcast. I found Podbean.com to be excellent. Also the placing of the link on my blog so that the podcast would actually play took me a little time to figure out. As I said, it was a fun learning experience and a way to connect with CCK09 as well. I am actually missing our Elluminate sessions!
December 4, 2009Hi won, sounds interestingly obtuse. Tell us more.
December 4, 2009 It sounds great. Roy, I messed up a little bit since I had microphone problems and I had to do my presentation through the chat but if I can be any help I´m ready to participate. After thinking about the Elluminate session where I participated, I realized that I learnt how much conversations gain when topics are delimited in advance. I have a tendency to dispersion and being forced into focusing on one particular idea helps me develop both my learning and communication skills. Apart from knowing microphones better now, these where my challenges and lessons learnt:
These were the challenges:
- Having only one slide and three minutes to present a question and arise other people´s interest was in itself a constraint.
- Having to do it in front of people whom I admire and who are experts or very good at a particular field was another constraint that added a pressure that I need in order to be really productive.
- Having to do it orally, in a language that´s not my native language, was another challenge.
These were the results:
- I gained practice speaking “in public” and synthesizing ideas
- I benefited from the combination of having some ideas developed on my mind in advance+ spontaneous talk. Conversations are so much richer when topics are prepared, read and interiorized in advance
- I felt part of the CCK09 more than any other time before
So I volunteer for telling this "story" any time.
Leila, thanks. Do you have a decent mike connection now? A headphone set with a mike is all you need,and we can set up a time. What is your availability in GMT terms?
Thanks
Roy
I just read this thread, great ideas and questions. When I was preparing my master´s degree in Literary Criticism I asked myself similar questions all the time, which at times turned into real existential crises. Someone told me to look at my research as a conversation with the former and following generations (as cheesy as it may sound, it kind of helped me). She said that because others (like Marx, to use the same example mentioned), used a particular filter to describe the world he was living in and the world he envisioned, others could afterwards question that filter using a different one. So whoever came next would use research like yours to question it and develop their own, and that would be the dialogue that would help create a never ending feedback, development, progress or whatever we may call it.
December 4, 2009Hi is tmrw evening (7,7.30,8?) good? On a practical note when do these forums close - is it also tomorrow?
December 4, 2009Hi is tmrw evening (7,7.30,8?) good? On a practical note when do these forums close - is it also tomorrow?
December 4, 2009Hi is tmrw evening (7,7.30,8?) good? On a practical note when do these forums close - is it also tomorrow?
December 4, 2009Sorry about the mass replies, dodgy connection coming into Waterloo just now. I do have audio now, so happy to set up on Wiziq (haven't facilitated on there before but doesn't look too difficult - will take a look tonight)
December 4, 2009With a suitably prepared and well connected community would it not be possible to capture new knowledge as it enters (or emerges in) the network?
For example in the CCK09 cohort could some researcher define a particular aspect of new knowledge and forensically track its movement?
It could be something trivial like "the use of the space bar for navigating in Google Wave" or more complex like "research methods in connectivism"
This would be descriptive research that needs the multiple perspectives of all those who are willing to discuss the new insight with the researcher. It would involve analysis of key terms across multiple technologies. Common themes of interaction could perhaps be inferred from the data and this could be used to demonstrate whether or not the phenomenon is best described by connectivism, constructivism, social learning or whatever.
Nicola, please post GMT time zone for the Wiziq meeting
>One of the affordances I most value in online networks is the affordance (or set of affordances) brought about by the absence of alpha-primate behaviour. That's just my choice of ecological niche, I suppose.
I guess we would all like to create an ecology in our own likeness...
However, it is therein that I fear the power of an authority such as a facilitator, particularly in a forced-subscription education system.
Hi Eduardo,
Have set for 7.00pm GMT for 90 minutes, I can easily cancel it and reschedule for later if its not a good time:
1. Live session
2.Time zones
3. Wiziq system check
Is this ok for everyone?
Hi Nicola, December 4th at 7.00pm GMT is OK for me
Hi Nicola, 7 or 8 pm GMT, Dec 4th is fine for me.
December 4, 2009Hi Roy - that's great !
Apologies, but have now got a new link for tonight:
http://www.wiziq.com/tutorsession/detail.aspx?id=8A44C12F547344128796C1D169ABB07D
This just means that hopefully I will get a couple of minutes beforehand to work out which buttons to press should I need to
I'm not sure if anyone can start talking or not (with audio) if no-one else is there, I think you can use the text chat though...
Also having some minor public transport challenges - will tweet if stuck !
Links for the timezone, system test are as above,
See you later ![]()
Ken, aren't we all mirrors of ourselves ('we are all one') ?
I love feisty, and dissonance, and even disruptive, and use them all in virtual and material workshops, but not distractions, particularly if they are ad hominem. They're too smart, too easy, and at the end of the day, lazy. I find it difficult to tolerate smart-lazy (vary the term to taste).
To operationalise these distinctions, of course, needs a very fine 'cut'.
I suppose what I take from OS networks is the right to fork, on the one hand, and the obligation to fork, on the other hand. So the first course of action (with petulant people of any age) is always divert/ fork, not exclude. Where possilbe, I am a firm believer in getting flamers and trollers into the same material space for them (not me) to resolve ad hominem storms in virtual space. Some time back I did get two colleagues to agree to a ban on any emails between them for 14 days, as they were retreating into their offices (within 5 meters of each other) to send yet more flaming emails to each other. It worked.
With Catherine, I got to the stage where I found myself doing far too much work sifting out the pearls from the mud - and there were some good pearls in there. It wasnt worth the mud/candle.
December 4, 2009Hi, Roy. I have a new USB microphone that I´ll try this evening. I´ll get back to you as soon as I know if the connection is OK. I´ll let you know my availability too, but this Tuesday is a holiday in Spain so pretty much any time that day (except very early in the morning) could work for me.
December 4, 2009Post in Twitter and use the hashtag #cck09 to be listed here. (These should be fresh. Still working on improving the Twitter display.)
@siavogel my last posts and forum comments for CCK09
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